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<strong>Meeting summary for DesignSafe Release/Management Meeting (11/21/2024)</strong>
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The team discussed issues with various applications, including the ad circ analysis tool, Stko, Kalpana, and the Intel compiler, and decided to involve Carlos and Tim for further discussions. They also discussed the development and support of community apps, the onboarding process, and access controls, with a focus on resolving issues and improving documentation. Lastly, they reviewed action items from the previous year, including the transition to a new React system and the need for documentation for Hvc Work.
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• Tim to follow up with Joe regarding SW batch issue and provide guidance on adapting notebook from Agave PI to Tapis v3.
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• Tracy to work with Sal on implementing changes to the allocation request process on the app page.
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• Natalie to follow up with Carlos regarding the meaning and status of "create designsafe job templates for ad circ".
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<strong>Ad Circ Analysis Tool Challenges</strong>
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The discussion revolved around the issues with the ad circ analysis tool, specifically the Tapest V2 and V3 apps. The team acknowledged that the old version was broken, which led to its non-use. However, they faced challenges in converting it to V2 and V3, with no clear understanding of how to do so. The team decided to involve Carlos in the process, as he might have a better understanding of how people use the tool. They also discussed the need for better engagement with the Adsert people. The conversation ended with the decision to inform Carlos about the issues and to involve Tim in the loop for further discussions.
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The team discussed issues related to the porting of certain applications, specifically Stko and Kalpana. They noted that Stko was not functioning correctly and required an update, which was expected to take a month. The team also discussed the usage of these applications, with the consensus being that if an application hadn't been used in two years, it was likely unnecessary. They also touched on the issue of documentation, with the mention of a simulation app, Claw Pack, which was still in the documentation but no longer in use. The team agreed to continue monitoring the usage of these applications and to make decisions based on their usage.
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Tim and Unknown Speaker 2 discuss several topics related to open source software and the DesignSafe project. They plan to meet with someone at 10 AM to set priorities and deadlines. Unknown Speaker 2 expresses concern about outdated documentation mentioning the OpenSees.mp software. Tim explains that STKO previously used OpenSees but faced pressure to contribute code back, so they now use the official OpenSees releases. He mentions that Boris Jeremic's code is based on OpenSees but closed source, and Wen Yang is hesitant to assist because much of Boris's code may be stolen. Unknown Speaker 2 argues that Boris likely did not steal the original OpenSees code he forked from, based on the open source license at the time. They discuss the implications for user support and whether Boris's software provides significant value over OpenSees.
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The team discussed the development and support of community apps, particularly one related to computational symposium. They agreed that while they could provide guidance and templates for building these apps, they wouldn't support every app due to resource constraints. The team also discussed the potential of making these apps available through DesignSafe, but noted that it would depend on the level of support required. There was also a discussion about the feasibility of offering open sea offerings, with concerns raised about the number of spin-offs from a widely used code. The team also encountered issues accessing Confluence, with some members unable to log in.
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In the meeting, the participants discuss a Jira ticket related to Kalpana that was overlooked but has now been created by Carlos. They also review a list of applications and their owners, fixing some entries. When discussing Joe Van Tassel's issues with updating SW Batch, it is unclear if he needs help with v2 or v3 of the application. Krishna offers to provide Joe with a notebook showing the differences between v2 and v3, but there is some confusion about the specific issue Joe is facing. The discussion ends with the suggestion to check the ticket for more details.
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Tim, Krishna, and an unknown speaker discussed issues with the Intel compiler and its impact on their code. Krishna explained that the migration to one API had caused inaccuracies in his unit tests, with results off by 1e-7 to 1e-5. The team also discussed the onboarding process for a new user, which had been automated. However, Krishna was unsure if he had gone through the onboarding process due to his admin page access. The team agreed to investigate further.
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Krishna, Unknown Speaker 1, and Unknown Speaker 2 discussed an issue related to onboarding and access controls. Krishna gained administrator access and joked about potentially removing Ellen from the process. They also discussed a ticket from Joe, which Tim was trying to locate. The conversation then shifted to a problem with the Hvsr web and a SW batch issue, which Tim recalled. They also discussed a workflow through Jupiter Hub and the need to adapt a notebook from Agave Pi to tapestry. Tim was asked to include Sylvia and Page in the discussion regarding the adaptation. The conversation ended with Krishna sending a link to a notebook for Tim to review.
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Krishna had trouble accessing a project shared by Kayla on Jupiter, which was resolved when Krishna restarted the server. Tim and Alex discussed their collaboration with Alan on account approvals and the process for requesting allocations. They decided to ease the restrictions on allocation requests, particularly for legitimate users from reputable universities. A Jira ticket was created to address the issue of users not seeing the "request allocation" banner when trying to run an app.
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In the meeting, the team discussed various action items from the previous year. They clarified the meaning of 'job templates' and decided to follow up with Carlos for more context. They also discussed the transition to a new React system for their websites, which is more up-to-date and secure. The team also discussed the need for documentation for Hvc Work, with Tim suggesting that they might not need it anymore. The team decided to continue discussing the need for Hvc Work and whether they should discontinue it.
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