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<strong>Meeting summary for DesignSafe Broad Issues Meeting (04/03/2025)</strong>
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The meeting focused on discussing the need for improved scalability, flexibility, and efficiency in the current system for managing applications across different computing environments. Participants explored potential solutions, including vertical and horizontal scaling, simplifying application addition, and enhancing web-based form submissions for HPC jobs. They also addressed file path issues, storage options, and directory structures, emphasizing the importance of understanding and optimizing these aspects for better system performance and user experience.
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<strong>Next steps</strong>
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• Silvia to meet with Gilbert to discuss file paths and integration of different file systems with Jupiter Hub.
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• Silvia to have a conversation with Phil and Scott about using HDF5 for data storage in the SKEP project.
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• Silvia to look up how to write to scratch storage in the docs.tacc.utexas.edu documentation.
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• Silvia to discuss with Pedro about using the sharing project files feature in work folders for OpenSees projects.
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• Tim to forward the meeting recording and AI summary to Silvia.
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• Natalie to organize a larger meeting about Jupiter and infrastructure scaling, involving more team members.
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• Silvia to create a mock-up of her ideas for improving the infrastructure and show it to Tim.
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• Silvia to incorporate her ideas for improving tools and apps infrastructure into the proposal for Joy.
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<strong>Summary</strong>
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<strong>Vertical and Horizontal Scaling Discussion</strong>
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Silvia and Tim discussed the need for vertical and horizontal scaling in their system. They considered the differences between the Interactive VM and Jupyter Hub, and the potential for adding resources and creating new apps. They also discussed the importance of understanding the configuration and scaling of their system, and the need for a meeting to discuss these topics further. Tim emphasized the need for a meeting to clarify the roles and responsibilities of different team members, and to discuss the Jupiter-related environments.
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<strong>Improving Application Management Across Environments</strong>
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Tim and Silvia discuss the need for a more uniform and elastic system for managing applications across different computing environments. They agree that adding new applications should be simpler, without requiring extensive changes to the infrastructure. Silvia expresses frustration with the current "archaic design" that makes updates and improvements complicated. Tim acknowledges the challenges posed by varying hardware and software environments but agrees that within a given HPC system or virtual environment, adding new applications should be more straightforward. They plan to address these issues in future meetings with the relevant teams.
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<strong>Improving Tools for Better Scalability</strong>
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Tim and Silvia discussed the need to improve the overall tools and apps for better scalability and efficiency. They agreed that maintaining one application that supports all the apps is easier than supporting multiple applications. However, they also acknowledged that this change would require significant effort and might not be feasible until it's included in the annual work plan. Silvia expressed her frustration with the decision-making process and the need to provide solutions rather than just problems. They agreed to involve Gilbert in the discussion to understand the possibilities and potential solutions.
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<strong>Improving System for Exponential App Growth</strong>
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Tim and Silvia discussed the limitations of their current system, which is preventing exponential app growth. They agreed that the system is not ready to support small codes and that users should be able to run applications directly on the HPC. Silvia is working on a solution that would allow users to run applications through Jupyter notebook, and Tim suggested that they should be using a form-based entry system. They also discussed the need for a more flexible system that would allow users to add new applications easily.
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<strong>Improving Web Form Flexibility for HPC</strong>
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Silvia discusses improving the flexibility of web-based form submissions for HPC jobs. She explains that the current forms fill in application fields, but there's potential to make them more dynamic and conditional based on user inputs. Silvia envisions a system where users can define parameter suites and ground motions, which would then dynamically build Pi Launcher inputs. She also mentions the possibility of integrating pre- and post-processing in Jupyter notebooks. Tim emphasizes the need to simplify these concepts for non-technical team members and stakeholders.
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Silvia discussed her struggles with file paths in Jupyter notebooks, particularly with the increasing number of options and the need to provide full paths. She planned to discuss this issue with Gilbert, who is expected to have a good understanding of file path issues related to the Jupiter Hub environment. Silvia also mentioned her intention to condense the SQL file to reduce its size, which would make it easier to access in the Jupyter environment. Tim agreed with Silvia's points and emphasized the importance of understanding the different file systems and their integration with the Jupiter Hub.
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Silvia and Tim discussed the nuances of working with data on different directories. They agreed that scratch is the fastest option but it has limitations. Silvia expressed her preference for working directly on the node, but noted that scratch is not accessible from her Jupiter notebook. Tim explained that the choice of directory depends on the size of the data, the number of cores, and the amount of memory on a node. They also discussed the potential issues of running out of space in the work directory and the need to transfer files.
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Tim discussed the upcoming configuration of a new storage system, which will include a large flash system for scratch, corral, and work. He emphasized the need for partitioning the disk, despite the system being highly performant and accessible. Silvia questioned the difference between scratch and purged data, and Tim clarified that scratch would be purged. They also discussed the possibility of mounting the nodes on the storage system for faster data transfer. Silvia planned to look up the documentation for more information.
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Tim explains the structure of directories in DesignSafe and how they correspond to Jupyter and Corral. Silvia clarifies the workflow for managing project files, including using the 'work' directory for current projects and 'scratch' for job submissions. Tim advises on transferring files between systems and mentions that Corral is not mounted on HPC nodes. They discuss the possibility of sharing project files in the 'work' directory, and Tim directs Silvia to the "Sharing Project Files" section in the documentation for instructions on changing file permissions.
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